mock draft #3?

Schwks · Post by **Schwks** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:39 am

did heels make picks or did we just do it for him?

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:51 am

man, i've heard of slow drafts but this is getting rediculous. i haven't picked in over 48 hours.

Vander · Post by **Vander** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 8:25 am

This is the first year I haven't participated in the message board drafts and you have no idea what slow is. In past years you could go weeks in between picks. This is the fastest draft I've ever seen here.

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 8:31 am

no problem here. i'll stay online and adjust accordingly. looks like i'll have the "forecaster" before my next pick.

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Less than Dave · Post by **Less than Dave** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:21 am

My pick: Chipper Jones, 3B, ATL

Tradesman's pick per PM from Head 2 Head who is filling in for Tradesman: Joe Nathan, RP, MIN

Tradesman Kettleers · Post by **Tradesman Kettleers** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:24 am

Are you on crack? trdesman makes his own pick here and goes with Roy Halladay (P) at 5.04

Tradesman Kettleers · Post by **Tradesman Kettleers** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:29 am

Thanx for trying to keep this Draft moving, but I've been checking in all day!! TK's

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:38 am

Mock Draft #3

1.01 - Heels - Hanley Ramirez

1.02 - Captain Hook - Jose Reyes, SS, NYM

1.03 - LessthanDave - Albert Pujols, 1B, STL

1.04 - Tradesman Kettleers - Alex Rodriguez, 3B, NYY

1.05 - emalbright - David Wright, 3B, NYM

1.06 - Hard Heads - Ryan Howard, 1B, PHL

1.07 - Red Rum - Jimmy Rollins, SS, PHL

1.08 - pat young - Miguel Cabrera, 1B, DET

1.09 - Shawn Childs - Josh Hamilton, OF, TEX

1.10 - Ky Reign - Grady Sizemore, OF, CLE

1.11 - Schwks - Ryan Braun, OF, MLW

1.12 - NorCal - Tim Lincecum, P, SF

1.13 - Ryan Carey - Ian Kinsler, 2B, TEX

1.14 - Raskolnikov - Mark Teixeira, 1B, FA

1.15 - Bobby J - Carlos Beltran, OF, NYM

2.01 - Bobby J - B.J. Upton, OF, TB

2.02 - Raskolnikov - A. Soriano, OF, CHC

2.03 - Ryan Carey - Evan Longoria, 3B, TB

2.04 - NorCal - C.C. Sabathia, P, FA

2.05 - Schwks - Carlos Quentin, OF, CWS

2.06 - Ky Reign - Matt Holliday, OF, OAK

2.07 - Shawn Childs - Carl Crawford, OF, TB

2.08 - Pat Young - Dustin Pedroia, 2B, BOS

2.09 - Red Rum - Brandon Phillips, 2B, CIN

2.10 - Hard Heads - Matt Kemp, OF, LAD

2.11 - emalbright - Lance Berkman, 1B, HOU

2.12 - Tradesman Kettleers - Johan Santana, P, NYM

2.13 - LessthanDave - Brian Roberts, 2B, BAL

2.14 - Captain Hook - Manny Ramirez, OF, LAD

2.15 - Heels - Ichiro Suzuki, OF, SEA

3.01 - Heels - Prince Fielder, 1B, MLW

3.02 - Captain Hook - Alexei Ramirez, 2B, CWS

3.03 - LessthanDave - Carlos Lee, OF, HOU

3.04 - Tradesman Kettleers - Chase Utley, 2B, PHL

3.05 - emalbright - Alexi Rios, OF, TOR

3.06 - Hard Heads - Jacoby Ellsbury, OF, BOS

3.07 - Red Rum - Justin Morneau, 1B, MIN

3.08 - pat young - Kevin Youkilis, 1B/3B, BOS

3.09 - Shawn Childs - Jason Bay, OF, BOS

3.10 - Ky Reign - Aramis Ramirez, 3B, CHC

3.11 - Schwks - Curtis Granderson, OF, DET

3.12 - NorCal - Nate McLouth, OF, PIT

3.13 - Ryan Carey - Nick Markakis, OF, BAL

3.14 - Raskolnikov - Bobby Abreu, OF, FA

3.15 - Bobby J - Magglio Ordonez, OF, DET

4.01 - Bobby J - Cole Hamels, P, PHL

4.02 - Raskolnikov - David Ortiz, UT, BOS

4.03 - Ryan Carey - Vladimir Guerrero, OF, LAA

4.04 - NorCal - Adrian Gonzalez, 1B, SD

4.05 - Schwks - Brandon Webb, P, AZ

4.06 - Ky Reign - Brian McCann, C, ATL

4.07 - Shawn Childs - Russell Martin, C, LAD

4.08 - Pat Young - Jake Peavy, P, SD>

4.09 - Red Rum - Adam Dunn, OF, FA

4.10 - Hard Heads - Corey Hart, OF, MLW

4.11 - emalbright - Joe Mauer, C, MIN

4.12 - Tradesman Kettleers - Ryan Ludwick, OF, STL

4.13 - LessthanDave - Dan Haren, P, AZ

4.14 - Captain Hook - Jonathan Papelbon, P, BOS

4.15 - Heels - Francisco Rodriguez, P, NYM

5.01 - Heels - Shane Victorino, OF, PHL

5.02 - Captain Hook - Joey Votto, 1B, CIN

5.03 - LessthanDave - Chipper Jones, 3B, ATL

5.04 - Tradesman Kettleers - Roy Halladay, P, TOR

5.05 - emalbright - Rafael Furcal, SS, FA

5.06 - Hard Heads - Joakim Soria, P, KC

5.07 - Red Rum -

5.08 - pat young -

5.09 - Shawn Childs -

5.10 - Ky Reign -

5.11 - Schwks -

5.12 - NorCal -

5.13 - Ryan Carey -

5.14 - Raskolnikov -

5.15 - Bobby J -

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NorCalAtlFan · Post by **NorCalAtlFan** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:48 am

I like that Halladay pick. IF he maintains that k rate, great value in the 5th.

Less than Dave · Post by **Less than Dave** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:40 am

take it easy dude... here's the PM ur boy Head 2 Head sent me:

"Dave - I am heading out shopping and will be away from PC for hours. Expect Perry to pick soon. Then you and Tradesman (who I am filing in for). Short list: Nathan, Victorino and Victor Martinez.

~Gary"

plus you have been slow to respond in the past...

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:07 am

LTD - obviously he didn't know Tradesman was back

Less than Dave · Post by **Less than Dave** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:51 am

ya I know.. just don't kill the messenger haha...

by the way, yes, I like the Halladay pick also, however I like my Haren pick the round before better because he has shown that K rate the last 3 seasons, whereas Holliday had a 70 k increase last season from the previous 2...

NorCalAtlFan · Post by **NorCalAtlFan** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:01 pm

Just not a big fan of Haren's splits. He's ALMOST the Adam LaRoche of SP's.

EA Sports · Post by **EA Sports** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:52 pm

5.05 R Furcal SS LAD

Hard Heads · Post by **Hard Heads** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:15 pm

5-06 Joakim Soria-RP KC

Ryan C · Post by **Ryan C** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:53 am

Wow...haven't picked since Wed...sigh.

Tradesman Kettleers · Post by **Tradesman Kettleers** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:09 am

The Halladay pick was predicated more on WHIP than K's as Walk rate is a much more predictable commodity than K rate in my estimation. Though his K-rate hasn't been elite throughout his career, Halladay's consistency in getting Wins is also a consideration. He also seems to be fully recovered from the forearm strain of 2 years ago which may have suppressed his K-rate in '07.

Less than Dave · Post by **Less than Dave** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:27 am

K-rate is pretty predictable actually...

Less than Dave · Post by **Less than Dave** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:28 am

Jesus cmon guys let's go here...

Bobby J · Post by **Bobby J** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:50 am

are Pat or Shawn ready with their picks, there really isn't a rush to get this done, but I think people are going to lose interest fast is this mock continues moving at this speed. Can we skip Red Rum for now and move on. Dave I think you are right about being able to predict the K rate, it's the IP that are harder to predict

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:10 am

Look guys, these are by nature slow drafts. You can't expect people to be sitting at their computers all day every day - especially on a Sunday.

BTW did anyone send him a notice?

Captain Hook · Post by **Captain Hook** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:10 am

Mock Draft #3

1.01 - Heels - Hanley Ramirez

1.02 - Captain Hook - Jose Reyes, SS, NYM

1.03 - LessthanDave - Albert Pujols, 1B, STL

1.04 - Tradesman Kettleers - Alex Rodriguez, 3B, NYY

1.05 - emalbright - David Wright, 3B, NYM

1.06 - Hard Heads - Ryan Howard, 1B, PHL

1.07 - Red Rum - Jimmy Rollins, SS, PHL

1.08 - pat young - Miguel Cabrera, 1B, DET

1.09 - Shawn Childs - Josh Hamilton, OF, TEX

1.10 - Ky Reign - Grady Sizemore, OF, CLE

1.11 - Schwks - Ryan Braun, OF, MLW

1.12 - NorCal - Tim Lincecum, P, SF

1.13 - Ryan Carey - Ian Kinsler, 2B, TEX

1.14 - Raskolnikov - Mark Teixeira, 1B, FA

1.15 - Bobby J - Carlos Beltran, OF, NYM

2.01 - Bobby J - B.J. Upton, OF, TB

2.02 - Raskolnikov - A. Soriano, OF, CHC

2.03 - Ryan Carey - Evan Longoria, 3B, TB

2.04 - NorCal - C.C. Sabathia, P, FA

2.05 - Schwks - Carlos Quentin, OF, CWS

2.06 - Ky Reign - Matt Holliday, OF, OAK

2.07 - Shawn Childs - Carl Crawford, OF, TB

2.08 - Pat Young - Dustin Pedroia, 2B, BOS

2.09 - Red Rum - Brandon Phillips, 2B, CIN

2.10 - Hard Heads - Matt Kemp, OF, LAD

2.11 - emalbright - Lance Berkman, 1B, HOU

2.12 - Tradesman Kettleers - Johan Santana, P, NYM

2.13 - LessthanDave - Brian Roberts, 2B, BAL

2.14 - Captain Hook - Manny Ramirez, OF, LAD

2.15 - Heels - Ichiro Suzuki, OF, SEA

3.01 - Heels - Prince Fielder, 1B, MLW

3.02 - Captain Hook - Alexei Ramirez, 2B, CWS

3.03 - LessthanDave - Carlos Lee, OF, HOU

3.04 - Tradesman Kettleers - Chase Utley, 2B, PHL

3.05 - emalbright - Alexi Rios, OF, TOR

3.06 - Hard Heads - Jacoby Ellsbury, OF, BOS

3.07 - Red Rum - Justin Morneau, 1B, MIN

3.08 - pat young - Kevin Youkilis, 1B/3B, BOS

3.09 - Shawn Childs - Jason Bay, OF, BOS

3.10 - Ky Reign - Aramis Ramirez, 3B, CHC

3.11 - Schwks - Curtis Granderson, OF, DET

3.12 - NorCal - Nate McLouth, OF, PIT

3.13 - Ryan Carey - Nick Markakis, OF, BAL

3.14 - Raskolnikov - Bobby Abreu, OF, FA

3.15 - Bobby J - Magglio Ordonez, OF, DET

4.01 - Bobby J - Cole Hamels, P, PHL

4.02 - Raskolnikov - David Ortiz, UT, BOS

4.03 - Ryan Carey - Vladimir Guerrero, OF, LAA

4.04 - NorCal - Adrian Gonzalez, 1B, SD

4.05 - Schwks - Brandon Webb, P, AZ

4.06 - Ky Reign - Brian McCann, C, ATL

4.07 - Shawn Childs - Russell Martin, C, LAD

4.08 - Pat Young - Jake Peavy, P, SD>

4.09 - Red Rum - Adam Dunn, OF, FA

4.10 - Hard Heads - Corey Hart, OF, MLW

4.11 - emalbright - Joe Mauer, C, MIN

4.12 - Tradesman Kettleers - Ryan Ludwick, OF, STL

4.13 - LessthanDave - Dan Haren, P, AZ

4.14 - Captain Hook - Jonathan Papelbon, P, BOS

4.15 - Heels - Francisco Rodriguez, P, NYM

5.01 - Heels - Shane Victorino, OF, PHL

5.02 - Captain Hook - Joey Votto, 1B, CIN

5.03 - LessthanDave - Chipper Jones, 3B, ATL

5.04 - Tradesman Kettleers - Roy Halladay, P, TOR

5.05 - emalbright - Rafael Furcal, SS, FA

5.06 - Hard Heads - Joakim Soria, P, KC

5.07 - Red Rum - Geovanny Soto, C, CHC

5.08 - pat young - Michael Young, SS, TEX

5.09 - Shawn Childs - Garret Atkins, 3B, COL

5.10 - Ky Reign - Brad Lidge, P, PHL

5.11 - Schwks - Chris Davis, 1B, TEX

5.12 - NorCal - Hunter Pence, OF, HOU

5.13 - Ryan Carey - Carlos Pena, 1B, TB

5.14 - Raskolnikov -

5.15 - Bobby J -

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Less than Dave · Post by **Less than Dave** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:51 am

I mean, I can tell you that Haren wil be darn close to a 1:1 K/IP ratio, whereas I have no idea where Halladay will be next year.. but yes, after Haren, Halladay is def the next best on the board there I think.. his ERA/WHIP are excellent

Ryan C · Post by **Ryan C** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:51 am

Originally posted by Bobby J:

are Pat or Shawn ready with their picks, there really isn't a rush to get this done, but I think people are going to lose interest fast is this mock continues moving at this speed. Can we skip Red Rum for now and move on. Dave I think you are right about being able to predict the K rate, it's the IP that are harder to predict I agree with Bobby here - time to pick for him, or skip, I agree that we can't expect people to sit by the computer all day - but you gotta check in at least ONCE - or send your picks to someone.

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:03 pm

You guys look like you need put out of your misery....

5-7 Geovany Soto