Smooth Draft NY

[JohnZ]

The 2-man LV8 crew was awesome. They always made sure the sticker was up before next owner picked.



The other thing that was vastly improved this year was almost every player had a sticker. There were very few write ins.



I also saw that Greg had them print the Stats ID #'s on the Admin small board stickers for ease of entering. This will cut down the entering time by about 85%.



[ March 19, 2006, 03:27 PM: Message edited by: UFS ]

[DiamondKing]

I was in tampa 2 and enjoyed the draft.I must admit that I would cringe when I heard a name loudly announced from tampa 3.I would sit thinking come on let >>> drop to me,and hear his name announced at the other side of the room.Maybe room dividers would help.But,you have to figure everybody in the room knows all the players,and if you start drafting by what you hear at the next table you are going to be in trouble.

[Gordon Gekko]

Originally posted by kgrady:

The pace of the proceedings was too quick, especially given the difficulty to hear the selections and read the draft board. We routinely had instances where let's say team 4 makes a selection. While the board-man is looking for the sticker for team four's selection, team 5 makes a pick. Then team 6 makes a pick, team seven is told he's on the clock while team 4's selection is just being placed on the board. My understanding is that the clock should not start until the prior pick

(and all other picks for that matter) has been posted on the board for all to see. That's the way it was done the first two years that I drafted in the NFBC. We certainly should not be going two and three picks ahead of what has been posted. your understanding is correct, the clock starts once the last player's sticker has been applied. if that wasn't being done, one possible solution would be to talk to the guy running the NY show...then to Greg.

[Gordon Gekko]

facilitator for NY7 was great. knew all the players and kept the draft moving along.



he enforced the "no using outlets for laptops during the draft" rule...which i was fine with until i walked past one league and saw multiple laptops plugged in while the draft was going on.

[JohnZ]

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

facilitator for NY7 was great. knew all the players and kept the draft moving along.



he enforced the "no using outlets for laptops during the draft" rule...which i was fine with until i walked past one league and saw multiple laptops plugged in while the draft was going on. Glad I wasn't there for that



My battery died on Thursday at the trade show. All I could get was a used one at a local repair shop, and I had to not use my computer for rounds 7-10, 18-20, while it was recharging. I had no problems drafting as I backed up everything by hand.



I think anyone wanting to power indraft should be able to do so as long as they bring a power strip for others to share.

[fandango]

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

facilitator for NY7 was great. knew all the players and kept the draft moving along.



he enforced the "no using outlets for laptops during the draft" rule...which i was fine with until i walked past one league and saw multiple laptops plugged in while the draft was going on. Isnt the reason for having a LIVE DRAFT so you DONT have to do stuff on the computer...if you like the computer so much, mine as well just do the satelites....i had no computer and no co-manager and had no problem keeping up with flow...maybe its just me....



NY1...jason kubel, round 29.....

[viper]

I'm a computer person but don't use them at drafts. I really could care less whether they are used and whether you can use outlets but I do feel that everyone should have the same opportunity. If even one league at any site does not have access to outside power then no one should. In NY, the guy in charge CLEARLY stated the rules before the draft. Facilitators that ignored the rules should have their checks taken back. They ever so slighly changed the evenness of the overall contest.



[ March 19, 2006, 04:08 PM: Message edited by: viper ]

[Gordon Gekko]

Originally posted by fandango:

i had no computer and no co-manager and had no problem keeping up with flow...i'm very proud of your accomplishment

[viper]

I realize that this is a suggestion for next season but at random times during the draft, the overall Krause head honcho at each site should ensure that the laptop rule is being adhered too. I think this is the third straight year that at least one league violated this rule.



Violators should be drawn and quartered - or at least receive a wrist slap.



[ March 19, 2006, 04:14 PM: Message edited by: viper ]

[Gordon Gekko]

Originally posted by UFS:

I had to not use my computer for rounds 7-10, 18-20, while it was recharging. I had no problems drafting as I backed up everything by hand. funny you say that. when my laptop died (while the draft was going on), i removed it from the draft table, plugged it into the wall outlet, and walked back to the draft table to handle the draft using my "papers". i was then informed by the facilitator that even though i wasn't using the laptop, it couldn't be recharging while the draft was going on. the facilitator then had someone unplug my laptop from the outlet. :rolleyes:



if anyone else had any laptop experiences. i'd love to hear them.

[JohnZ]

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by UFS:

I had to not use my computer for rounds 7-10, 18-20, while it was recharging. I had no problems drafting as I backed up everything by hand. funny you say that. when my laptop died (while the draft was going on), i removed it from the draft table, plugged it into the wall outlet, and walked back to the draft table to handle the draft using my "papers". i was then informed by the facilitator that even though i wasn't using the laptop, it couldn't be recharging while the draft was going on. the facilitator then had someone unplug my laptop from the outlet. :rolleyes:



if anyone else had any laptop experiences. i'd love to hear them. [/QUOTE]Wow! Another similarity in our drafts! I did the exact same thing, but had no problems charging it while not using it during the draft.



Why would it be a problem to charge it if you were not using it? That makes no sense.

[Gordon Gekko]

Originally posted by UFS:

Why would it be a problem to charge it if you were not using it? That makes no sense. makes no sense to me as well. maybe the laptop police were keeping a close eye on me?



btw, my NY league was the only league not drafting in the ballroom with the other NY leagues. we were all by ourselves in a smaller conference room.

[nydownunder]

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by UFS:

Why would it be a problem to charge it if you were not using it? That makes no sense. makes no sense to me as well. maybe the laptop police were keeping a close eye on me?



btw, my NY league was the only league not drafting in the ballroom with the other NY leagues. we were all by ourselves in a smaller conference room. [/QUOTE]Gordon, That was done (Lg 7) for your own protection.



[ March 19, 2006, 04:35 PM: Message edited by: nydownunder ]

[sportsbettingman]

Isn't there a clear advantage to using a laptop with draft tracking software loaded showing clearly (well...as clearly as a projected value can be)...the category balance of the league?



Assuming the projections are accurate (as much as the prediction of human performance can be...aka...impossible) ...the software could show where you would place at any given point in the draft...and thus...what you need to draft to keep up.



This is a big advantage in my opinion...even based on just projected stats.



Since this is an advantage...and the rules are clear...it is something that should not be taken lightly. Spare batteries are all you need...I guess you must pay for this advantage...or charge during the breaks.



~Lance

[sportsbettingman]

...how much are you bidding for Burgos "Double G"...?



Bidding is fun.



~Lance

[Kevin D]

My views on NYC Draft.



Final sales pitch from ESPN Guy just prior to the start was a little too much. I'll NEVER!!! join their service due to this oversell. Goodie bag overstuffed with phone sales handouts and "BLACK BAllING" the entire NFBC!!!I know ESPN colors are Black and Red But Who does their marketing?? Or maybe I'm just too sensitive about Fantasy Sports persona??



As stated previously the problem of hearing the other Leaques picks has been a around since inception. It needs to be addressed--- especially since NYC 7 drafted in a seperate room where it wasn't a factor. It created an uneven playing field, made supervision problematic and how was League seven chosen to be in the seperate room? Reasons why and excuses as how this happened aren't good enough. The contest must be above reproach and transparent. This opens a can of worms and I hope the Main Event Champion doesn't come from that Leaque. 1/22 chance the repuation of the NFBC is damaged. Individual rooms for each leaque is the obvious answer.



The report of some people still plugging into sockets during the draft is very disappointing. Not only was it announced that it was not allowed this issue was thoughy disscussed on this MB prior to the event. This was a blatant violation of that announcment. It speaks to the integrity of the participants and WHEN!! there's a league drafting in a seperate room!!??!! What were those guys up too? Solution. Arrange power source for everyone.



Definte need to Check the Lighting for the draft Boards prior to starting. NYC #1 was poorly lit. I've experienced this in past NFBC drafts.



Facilitor and helper got there act together about not starting the clock until sticker posted after constructive critisim from Team #1. Well done to all involved.



Very pleasant guys on both sides of me. I must say I enjoyed this Draft more than any other.(I've played in both previous NFBC tilts.) Smooth check-in.



I'd like to see more passion as in when "Justin Huber" was drafted to the Ecstasy of the sucessful owner.More fun like in local leagues. But with $$$ at stakes it's a thin line.

[devilznj]

Originally posted by Kevin D:

My views on NYC Draft.







As stated previously the problem of hearing the other Leaques picks has been a around since inception. It needs to be addressed--- especially since NYC 7 drafted in a seperate room where it wasn't a factor. It created an uneven playing field, made supervision problematic and how was League seven chosen to be in the seperate room? Reasons why and excuses as how this happened aren't good enough. The contest must be above reproach and transparent. This opens a can of worms and I hope the Main Event Champion doesn't come from that Leaque. 1/22 chance the repuation of the NFBC is damaged. Individual rooms for each leaque is the obvious answer.







. Now we're going a little overboard! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[viper]

Originally posted by sportsbettingman:

Isn't there a clear advantage to using a laptop with draft tracking software loaded showing clearly (well...as clearly as a projected value can be)...the category balance of the league?



Assuming the projections are accurate (as much as the prediction of human performance can be...aka...impossible) ...the software could show where you would place at any given point in the draft...and thus...what you need to draft to keep up.



This is a big advantage in my opinion...even based on just projected stats.



Since this is an advantage...and the rules are clear...it is something that should not be taken lightly. Spare batteries are all you need...I guess you must pay for this advantage...or charge during the breaks.



~Lance There are other ways to do the same thing. My co-manager keeps a running staus of where I am to average. I have a fairly eloborate rating system. Not quite the same but I can see where I stand to average in each category. This may even be better than adding up stats to date as catchers make for big hits and they can significantly to-date stats. And sometime others draft guys in minors for later stats. Not sure how that is handled. At one point late I needed average at CI. I saw the Casey among others was there. I was in very good shape in power categories so I targeted and got Casey.

[bbhammer]

First off, great meeting you guys in NY 3, where our proctor was incredibly knowledgeable and professional... in addition to recognizing and identifying each player as their names were told to him (from memory, through 30 rounds) he was discreet in exactly the fashion previously described... he would lower his voice and repeat the pick to each of our league's tables;



Second, you baseball guys are NUTS! As a football guy I've been with the NFFC since its inception and thought that drafting 14 teams over 18 rounds was tough (and thin) and time consuming... but 15 teams at 30 rounds with all this 5x5, multi-positional, variable, flex crap? You guys are INSANE! I have a new respect for you baseball people and the nuance that goes into putting together a competitive lineup;



Third, we need more than two MVPSports girls next time, and preferably throw in some brunettes and red heads to go with the blondes;



Fourth, I agree about the guy calling out names for NY2: way too loud;



Fifth, many thanks and congratulations to Greg, Tom and the NFBC crew for another excellent experience with a national fantasy contest... you guys are first class!



Sixth, I can proudly say that I was responsible for one pick in my first-ever baseball draft: deep into the 14th round of NY3 my partner (the brains of the outfit) grudgingly allowed me to throw out the one baseball player whose name I recognized from the whole afternoon. "ROGER CLEMENS," I bellowed, and felt strong saying it... until I heard that he's thinking of hanging them up. I'm not sure if this makes me Rocket Man or Rain Man but at least I've got something to hang my hat on until September!

[nydownunder]

As much as I didn't like the fact that player names were being shouted out at times in NY League #2 (next to my league), I would't put the blame on the proctor(s). I am sure he and all the other proctors were told not to shout the names and to go around to the rest of the tables repeating the name (while the other proctor has time to put the name on the board), but all it takes is 1 or 2 managers 'foaming at the mouth' to tell him to speak up for him to change his/her method.



Point being, I think the problem can be avoided by NFBC announcing some of the rules and/or etiquettes expected or to take place during the draft....right before the draft starts (LOUD and CLEAR with everyone's full attention - full attention). This could include things such as 60 seconds from the point the name is on the board, no computers plugged in and whatever else people believe is important to the competition. Unless all participants fully understand and appreciate these expectations, then proctors will never have a chance when dealing with us rabid managers in the heat of the battle.

[RichV]

I thought NY 1 ran very well. The one minute from the time the name is posted was resolved in a hurry, by team 1, and a number of other teams agreeing in a hurry!



Something should be done about the proximity of the leagues to each other. On at least one occasion, a team in our league was running low on time, a name was bellowed from league 2, and low and behold...our league mate running out of time called that player..Coincidence?? maybe, but some action should be taken to avoid this in the future.



And one final note..Damn, it was cold where I was sitting!!

[edelman24]

KEVIND....I took part in NY League #7 with GG and a lot of other great owners and busted my A$$ for months leading up to this event for you to say that the winner better not come from NY League #7 is absurd, we didnt chose to have our room I was shocked when I arrived and saw it as well..but to make that statement is ludicrious and I hope the overall winner does come from out league as I think there are a few teams that came out of the draft ready to compete mine included.

[Sal Vella]

NY League 2 had good facilitators also however...I had to keep reminding them to inform me of the team that was picking....I drafted #15 and was close to the board however it was impossible to see the board from the side. zero view totally. Also, the draft is very long and as usual I got a headache...Simply becuase they dont sell food ... Why cant they sell food? Beats me.

[Kevin D]

Originally posted by edelman24:

KEVIND....I took part in NY League #7 with GG and a lot of other great owners and busted my A$$ for months leading up to this event for you to say that the winner better not come from NY League #7 is absurd, we didnt chose to have our room I was shocked when I arrived and saw it as well..but to make that statement is ludicrious and I hope the overall winner does come from out league as I think there are a few teams that came out of the draft ready to compete mine included. E-Man-- You're taking my comments personally and missing the point. I DO NOT! think nor am I accusing anyone in NY 7 of skullduggery. The NFBC is superbly run and administered with the highest of ethical standards. But "Stuff" happens. With your league drafting in a totally seperate room IMO an "uneven playing field" was created. (Particularly with the feedback as to the player calls from other leagues being noted as a factor.) IMO they were a significant factor in my league(NY 1) on at least 8 and possibliy as many as 12 occasions. It causes "Unforced Errors" when owners scratch players off their Cheats that haven't been called in their league. Worse; later in the event, players that might have slipped, are heard being taken in other leagues alerting those in your league of possible value picks in the End Game..

Also, with the news that some owners disregarded the announcement on plugging into outlets it brings into question what other rules they might be ignoring or taking advantage of.

The point you make about "Bustin your ass" in preparation is well taken. But 329 other guys did the same thing and only 15 got to draft in a single room without outside interference. IMO this shouldn't happen. Believe me, if the "Champ" comes from NY 7 you'd hear about it. There isn't much that gets by or isn't brought up on NFBC MB's by it's participants. My post preempts any comments as to the significance of what went on and makes people aware of "How the draft went in New York". I don't wish any owner in NY7 any ill luck but AGAIN, IMO the interests of the NFBC would best be served by the $100,000 winner not coming from NY7. With all this being said. Good Luck this year and hope you win. So let's PLAY ON!!!

[jace]

Just my two cents, but my hat's off to the facilitaters in league NY#5. Great job!