2014 Early Season Draft Results

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Re: 2014 Early Season Draft Results

Post by sek729 » Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:42 am

I'm in a draft where Yu Darvish went 17th, Clayton Kershaw 18th.

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Re: 2014 Early Season Draft Results

Post by Gekko » Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:58 am

I hope this isn't a nfbc draft. Kershaw 18th? Yikes

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Re: 2014 Early Season Draft Results

Post by sek729 » Thu Jan 02, 2014 11:03 am

$150 DC 21

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Post by Gekko » Thu Jan 02, 2014 11:09 am

sek729 wrote:$150 DC 21
All never get value like that, cause there is no way I'd ever let him slip past my pick in the first round (13 slot) in this example

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Post by CALI CARTEL » Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:35 pm

I picked 1st in this draft and couldn't believe Kershaw kept falling, I mean I'm not down on Ency or Freeman by any means, but I'm not passing on the most dominant pitcher in years to grab a First Baseman like that in the 1st round.

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Re: 2014 Early Season Draft Results

Post by DOUGHBOYS » Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:38 pm

Gekko wrote:
sek729 wrote:$150 DC 21
All never get value like that, cause there is no way I'd ever let him slip past my pick in the first round (13 slot) in this example
And the number 13 drafter will be considered smart for picking Kershaw.
While others will think otherwise knowing he passed him in the first round.
Sometimes dumb luck is the best kind of luck.
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Re: 2014 Early Season Draft Results

Post by sek729 » Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:45 pm

DOUGHBOYS wrote:
Gekko wrote:
sek729 wrote:$150 DC 21
All never get value like that, cause there is no way I'd ever let him slip past my pick in the first round (13 slot) in this example
And the number 13 drafter will be considered smart for picking Kershaw.
While others will think otherwise knowing he passed him in the first round.
Sometimes dumb luck is the best kind of luck.

#13 commented that his partner who lives in Asia went to bed, and they had Kipnis set as their next pick (who went 16th) and he was going to wait for him to get up.

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Post by DOUGHBOYS » Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:58 pm

Incredible.

And somehow, somewhere, fantasy gods are conjuring up a great year for Kipnis and Tommy John for Kershaw, just to remind us we know nothing :lol:
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Post by NorCalAtlFan » Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:01 pm

that is some serious value for kershaw! there is no doubting that

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Post by DOUGHBOYS » Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:03 pm

NorCalAtlFan wrote:that is some serious value for kershaw! there is no doubting that
WAM! BOOM! To the moon, Alice!!!!
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Post by ikenbaseball » Thu Jan 02, 2014 7:49 pm

DOUGHBOYS wrote:
Gekko wrote:
sek729 wrote:$150 DC 21
All never get value like that, cause there is no way I'd ever let him slip past my pick in the first round (13 slot) in this example
And the number 13 drafter will be considered smart for picking Kershaw.
While others will think otherwise knowing he passed him in the first round.
Sometimes dumb luck is the best kind of luck.

Or like HOFer Lefty Gomez once said, "I'd rather be lucky than good." Isn't that the truth in life.

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Post by DOUGHBOYS » Thu Jan 02, 2014 7:54 pm

That quote has been attributed to many.
It's funny in that those that are truly good at something are alleged to have said it.
It's even better to be lucky AND good. :D
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Post by teflontim » Thu Jan 02, 2014 7:59 pm

I'm not going to make fun of Kershaw going so late after laughing at a guy for taking Peyton first overall in football.

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Post by DOUGHBOYS » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:25 pm

teflontim wrote:I'm not going to make fun of Kershaw going so late after laughing at a guy for taking Peyton first overall in football.
Right?
I can't imagine how many folks told him about 'value'.
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Post by Roger Dorn » Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:02 pm

Gekko wrote:Tanaka now a 6th rounder. I can see him going in 4th round come big money drafts in march

My Christmas miracle of getting him at 320 is looking better than getting Kershaw at 18th. Talk about luck.

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Post by Baseball Furies » Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:30 am

That settles it. After reading this crap, my New Year's resolution is to start drafting with the hopelessly inept and obviously insane. :roll: "Asia"...now that was classic. :shock:
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Re: 2014 Early Season Draft Results

Post by KJ Duke » Fri Jan 03, 2014 7:00 am

Gekko wrote:I hope this isn't a nfbc draft. Kershaw 18th? Yikes
The "projected" top pitcher drafted at 2.03 ? ... completely disrespectful of December ADP.

Last year's Kershaw ADP, 2.02 .... same pitcher, unlikely to achieve last year's numbers.

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Re: 2014 Early Season Draft Results

Post by sek729 » Fri Jan 03, 2014 7:24 am

KJ Duke wrote:
Gekko wrote:I hope this isn't a nfbc draft. Kershaw 18th? Yikes
The "projected" top pitcher drafted at 2.03 ? ... completely disrespectful of December ADP.

Last year's Kershaw ADP, 2.02 .... same pitcher, unlikely to achieve last year's numbers.
I agree.

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Re: 2014 Early Season Draft Results

Post by Gekko » Fri Jan 03, 2014 8:01 am

KJ Duke wrote:
Gekko wrote:I hope this isn't a nfbc draft. Kershaw 18th? Yikes
The "projected" top pitcher drafted at 2.03 ? ... completely disrespectful of December ADP.

Last year's Kershaw ADP, 2.02 .... same pitcher, unlikely to achieve last year's numbers.
I see the KJ spin machine is in full effect. Kershaw had a hip injury to end 2012 AND verlander and strasburg were both viable alternatives viewed on the same level as kershaw. This year there is kershaw and then a huge gap IMO. I wouldn't hesitate taking kershaw as early as 5, esp when the big money drafts get closer

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Re: 2014 Early Season Draft Results

Post by sek729 » Fri Jan 03, 2014 8:41 am

I don't think the gap is nearly as large as made out to be. Dodgers had a Top 5 defense last season and the infield defense is significantly weaker with Ellis and Punto gone, replaced by this Cuban kid Guerrero. Juan Uribe is a defensive stud, he had a healthy year for once, but he's aging and his glove will start getting pushed out of the lineup. Banking on a sub-2 ERA again, or even a sub 2.3 is a pipe dream.

~2.50 ERA, ~1.02 WHIP, 230 Ks are great, but not "omg clear cut first rounder". Him and Darvish are on the same tier in my book and both of them belong around the turn of a 15-team league IMO.

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Re: 2014 Early Season Draft Results

Post by Greg Ambrosius » Fri Jan 03, 2014 9:55 am

Let's give you more to talk about with two more DC results this morning. Enjoy:

NFBC Draft Champions League
Round 1:
1 1 Mike Trout CF
1 2 Paul Goldschmidt 1B
1 3 Miguel Cabrera 1B
1 4 Chris Davis 1B
1 5 Andrew McCutchen CF
1 6 Hanley Ramirez SS
1 7 Robinson Cano 2B
1 8 Ryan Braun RF
1 9 Carlos Gonzalez LF
1 10 Troy Tulowitzki SS
1 11 Adam Jones CF
1 12 Bryce Harper LF
1 13 Joey Votto 1B
1 14 Edwin Encarnacion 1B
1 15 Freddie Freeman 1B

Round 2:
2 1 Jason Kipnis 2B
2 2 Yu Darvish SP
2 3 Clayton Kershaw SP
2 4 Prince Fielder 1B
2 5 Evan Longoria 3B
2 6 David Wright 3B
2 7 Carlos Gomez CF
2 8 Jacoby Ellsbury CF
2 9 Max Scherzer SP
2 10 Adrian Beltre 3B
2 11 Ian Desmond SS
2 12 Yasiel Puig RF
2 13 Jean Segura SS
2 14 Jay Bruce RF
2 15 Giancarlo Stanton RF

Round 3:
3 1 Stephen Strasburg SP
3 2 Matt Carpenter 2B
3 3 Matt Kemp CF
3 4 Adam Wainwright SP
3 5 Buster Posey C
3 6 Jose Fernandez SP
3 7 Albert Pujols 1B
3 8 Dustin Pedroia 2B
3 9 Jose Reyes SS
3 10 Cliff Lee SP
3 11 Shin-Soo Choo CF
3 12 Jose Bautista RF
3 13 Matt Holliday LF
3 14 Alex Rios RF
3 15 Hunter Pence RF

Round 4:
4 1 Felix Hernandez SP
4 2 Justin Upton LF
4 3 Adrian Gonzalez 1B
4 4 Justin Verlander SP
4 5 Madison Bumgarner SP
4 6 Chris Sale SP
4 7 David Price SP
4 8 Eric Hosmer 1B
4 9 Allen Craig 1B
4 10 Zack Greinke SP
4 11 Cole Hamels SP
4 12 Craig Kimbrel MR
4 13 Starling Marte LF
4 14 Greg Holland MR
4 15 Ryan Zimmerman 3B

Round 5:
5 1 Kenley Jansen MR
5 2 Aroldis Chapman MR
5 3 Joe Nathan MR
5 4 Joe Mauer C
5 5 Josh Donaldson 3B
5 6 Wil Myers RF
5 7 Josh Hamilton RF
5 8 Yadier Molina C
5 9 Yoenis Cespedes LF
5 10 Brian McCann C
5 11 Ian Kinsler 2B
5 12 Anibal Sanchez SP
5 13 Matt Cain SP
5 14 Elvis Andrus SS
5 15 Ben Zobrist 2B

Round 6:
6 1 David Ortiz DH
6 2 Carlos Santana C
6 3 Billy Hamilton CF
6 4 Michael Wacha SP
6 5 Mike Minor SP
6 6 Trevor Rosenthal MR
6 7 Pedro Alvarez 3B
6 8 Gio Gonzalez SP
6 9 Jordan Zimmermann SP
6 10 Wilin Rosario C
6 11 Mark Trumbo 1B
6 12 Jason Heyward RF
6 13 Jonathan Lucroy C
6 14 James Shields SP
6 15 Jedd Gyorko 2B

Thoughts?
Greg Ambrosius
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General Manager, Consumer Fantasy Games at SportsHub Technologies
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Re: 2014 Early Season Draft Results

Post by Greg Ambrosius » Fri Jan 03, 2014 10:02 am

Here's one more before the weekend starts:

NFBC Draft Champions League
Round 1:
1 1 Mike Trout CF
1 2 Miguel Cabrera 1B
1 3 Robinson Cano 2B
1 4 Paul Goldschmidt 1B
1 5 Clayton Kershaw SP
1 6 Andrew McCutchen CF
1 7 Carlos Gonzalez LF
1 8 Chris Davis 1B
1 9 Ryan Braun RF
1 10 Adam Jones CF
1 11 Prince Fielder 1B
1 12 Troy Tulowitzki SS
1 13 Jacoby Ellsbury CF
1 14 Hanley Ramirez SS
1 15 Bryce Harper LF

Round 2:
2 1 Freddie Freeman 1B
2 2 Joey Votto 1B
2 3 Carlos Gomez CF
2 4 Yasiel Puig RF
2 5 Jason Kipnis 2B
2 6 Adrian Beltre 3B
2 7 Evan Longoria 3B
2 8 Giancarlo Stanton RF
2 9 Yu Darvish SP
2 10 Edwin Encarnacion 1B
2 11 David Wright 3B
2 12 Dustin Pedroia 2B
2 13 Jose Reyes SS
2 14 Max Scherzer SP
2 15 Jean Segura SS

Round 3:
3 1 Jose Fernandez SP
3 2 Buster Posey C
3 3 Matt Kemp CF
3 4 Alex Rios RF
3 5 Craig Kimbrel MR
3 6 Ian Desmond SS
3 7 Jay Bruce RF
3 8 Adam Wainwright SP
3 9 Justin Upton LF
3 10 Matt Carpenter 2B
3 11 Shin-Soo Choo CF
3 12 Jose Bautista RF
3 13 Joe Mauer C
3 14 Stephen Strasburg SP
3 15 Hunter Pence RF

Round 4:
4 1 Felix Hernandez SP
4 2 Yoenis Cespedes LF
4 3 Ryan Zimmerman 3B
4 4 Justin Verlander SP
4 5 Madison Bumgarner SP
4 6 Chris Sale SP
4 7 Aroldis Chapman MR
4 8 David Price SP
4 9 Albert Pujols 1B
4 10 Ian Kinsler 2B
4 11 Matt Holliday LF
4 12 Allen Craig 1B
4 13 Cliff Lee SP
4 14 Mark Trumbo 1B
4 15 Wil Myers RF

Round 5:
5 1 Zack Greinke SP
5 2 Carlos Beltran RF
5 3 Wilin Rosario C
5 4 Greg Holland MR
5 5 Adrian Gonzalez 1B
5 6 Cole Hamels SP
5 7 Kenley Jansen MR
5 8 Elvis Andrus SS
5 9 Billy Hamilton CF
5 10 Eric Hosmer 1B
5 11 Pedro Alvarez 3B
5 12 Josh Hamilton RF
5 13 Trevor Rosenthal MR
5 14 Starling Marte LF
5 15 Manny Machado 3B

Round 6:
6 1 Michael Wacha SP
6 2 Carlos Santana C
6 3 David Ortiz DH
6 4 Joe Nathan MR
6 5 Koji Uehara MR
6 6 Anibal Sanchez SP
6 7 Josh Donaldson 3B
6 8 Ben Zobrist 2B
6 9 Masahiro Tanaka SP
6 10 Yadier Molina C
6 11 Jason Heyward RF
6 12 Jayson Werth RF
6 13 Jordan Zimmermann SP
6 14 Brandon Phillips 2B
6 15 Brian McCann C

Thoughts?
Greg Ambrosius
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General Manager, Consumer Fantasy Games at SportsHub Technologies
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Re: 2014 Early Season Draft Results

Post by ikenbaseball » Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:26 pm

Lunatic wrote:
Deadheadz wrote:
Lunatic wrote:Upside? SS/MI and another at DH is upside? Maybe try your gimmicks in a Yahoo league not one where you're going after a $20K grand prize.
One entry in hundreds (thousands?) will win $20K. I'm after a cash in a cheap DC league that started in December. Highly doubt anyone drafting before Feb 1st will finish top 10 overall. These are like mock drafts.

Hell, my team name is Mock Lobster for Pete's sake.

By upside I refer to Tulo specifically. If he's healthy, truly healthy all season, he will be a monster. What does it matter that he's at DH? Could be Papi there instead. Fine, put Tulo at SS. I've got Desmond at DH. Gotta put someone there. How many people will get 20/20 with 80/80/.280 from their DH?

That's the upside I speak of. The downside of taking Tulo with your first pick and not backing him up til much later has been well documented for the past several years, hasn't it?


Cheers!

No problem backing him up; but surely, starting a draft with 3 SS? I have never seen it in all my years of playing and for probably a good reason; smart players don't make idiotic decisions such as this one. But hey, you're right, it is your $150 to piss away.

Good Luck and please join one of my leagues.
I've tried this strategy and so have 2 pretty smart individuals.

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Just saying.

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Re: 2014 Early Season Draft Results

Post by Deadheadz » Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:50 pm

We just finished the DC Express where Jacoby Ellsbury went 4th overall.

And I thought I would be reaching down from my own spot at #6 to get him. Threw a wrench into my whole strategy. Had to settle for Kershaw and forced to take my OFs (Choo/Rios) in rounds 2/3 thus losing my shot at Kimbrel.

Wound up punting Closers. Got a bunch 'o SU men so it'll be Closer Carousel time before I get any saves other than rest days.


Greg will likely post the first 6 rounds here soon...
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Re: 2014 Early Season Draft Results

Post by sek729 » Sat Jan 04, 2014 4:26 am

A tad different in a league where you can trade vs a 50-round DC.

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