Agreed... maybe not 40/30.. The point is, upside is tremendous.Gekko wrote:Harper could blow the doors off anyone's projection for him. Something like 40/30 with a .295 avg. could be #1 pick overall entering 2015
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It's all in the eye of the beholder.Deadheadz wrote:I thought the majority of high stakes champions were preaching how the first round is for proven production not upside.
You took Hanley Ramirez in a first round, is he any more certain of proven production than Harper?
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Ryan Braun was taken sixth in a draft.
Does he have proven production?
Yes.
Does he get more at bats than Harper?
I don't know.
Does he have proven production?
Yes.
Does he get more at bats than Harper?
I don't know.
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A lot of people either believe or hope Harper is the next Trout.
Until he learns to be a true major leaguer, he has downside too. Crashing into the outfield fence/wall last year showed he still has some maturing to do before you can count on him playing healthy for 150+ games.
I rank him about the same as I rank Puig for 2014. Their hype means they'll both be gone before I'd want them in any 2014 league.
After Karabell compared both Hosmer and Lawrie to Ryan Braun a few years ago (on separate occasions) their hype pushed them up in most all ADP rankings.
Time will tell us if Harper is the next Trout or the next Lawrie.
Until he learns to be a true major leaguer, he has downside too. Crashing into the outfield fence/wall last year showed he still has some maturing to do before you can count on him playing healthy for 150+ games.
I rank him about the same as I rank Puig for 2014. Their hype means they'll both be gone before I'd want them in any 2014 league.
After Karabell compared both Hosmer and Lawrie to Ryan Braun a few years ago (on separate occasions) their hype pushed them up in most all ADP rankings.
Time will tell us if Harper is the next Trout or the next Lawrie.
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Gekko to English translation: I won't be drafting Harper on any of my teams!!!Gekko wrote:Harper could blow the doors off anyone's projection for him. Something like 40/30 with a .295 avg. could be #1 pick overall entering 2015
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Much better than.....Deadheadz wrote:A lot of people either believe or hope Harper is the next Trout.
Until he learns to be a true major leaguer, he has downside too. Crashing into the outfield fence/wall last year showed he still has some maturing to do before you can count on him playing healthy for 150+ games.
I rank him about the same as I rank Puig for 2014. Their hype means they'll both be gone before I'd want them in any 2014 league.
After Karabell compared both Hosmer and Lawrie to Ryan Braun a few years ago (on separate occasions) their hype pushed them up in most all ADP rankings.
Time will tell us if Harper is the next Trout or the next Lawrie.
"Harper at 6th overall?
I think we just discovered the identity of Anonymous:
Toronto Mayor Rob Ford, welcome to the NFBC."
Way to go...
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Not in the NFBC.Deadheadz wrote:Hype is a value killer.
Hype is just hype.
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Not out of the realm of possibility that Harper could put up a 50/40 .320 season
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Sure. 50 runs / 40 RBIGekko wrote:Not out of the realm of possibility that Harper could put up a 50/40 .320 season
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See?Gekko wrote:Not out of the realm of possibility that Harper could put up a 50/40 .320 season
Hype is just hype...
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I rank him about the same as I rank Puig for 2014. Their hype means they'll both be gone before I'd want them in any 2014 league.
Time will tell us if Harper is the next Trout or the next Lawrie.
I am thinking my Harper at 11 and Puig coming back at 20 wasn't the best idea.Oh well time to do another mock(draft champions) league. Lets see if I can personally influence any 1 players ADP all by myself.
I rank him about the same as I rank Puig for 2014. Their hype means they'll both be gone before I'd want them in any 2014 league.
Time will tell us if Harper is the next Trout or the next Lawrie.
I am thinking my Harper at 11 and Puig coming back at 20 wasn't the best idea.Oh well time to do another mock(draft champions) league. Lets see if I can personally influence any 1 players ADP all by myself.
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Damn ,now you all tell me that it is just hype 
I had just moved him up on my adp/ now you are telling me to move him back down?

I had just moved him up on my adp/ now you are telling me to move him back down?
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That's a clown question, bro.Deadheadz wrote:
Harper at 6th overall?
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Dan, I have him down for 55 HR, 130 RBI, and Kate Upton. 2 great fantasy stat categories and a trophy. Not a bad season.DOUGHBOYS wrote:See?Gekko wrote:Not out of the realm of possibility that Harper could put up a 50/40 .320 season
Hype is just hype...

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Gekko to English translation: I wouldn't even take Harper in the late 2nd round. Still, if I hype him enough, maybe some will take him over Trout.Gekko wrote:Not out of the realm of possibility that Harper could put up a 50/40 .320 season
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If I were 20, that'd be my three rubs of the genie's lamp!TParsons wrote:Dan, I have him down for 55 HR, 130 RBI, and Kate Upton. 2 great fantasy stat categories and a trophy. Not a bad season.DOUGHBOYS wrote:See?Gekko wrote:Not out of the realm of possibility that Harper could put up a 50/40 .320 season
Hype is just hype...
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The Nats brass is so confident in Harper and Werth they signed Nate McLouth.
Which of the three gets the most 2014 at-bats? Span leading off is a good bet to get more than any of them.
Which of the three gets the most 2014 at-bats? Span leading off is a good bet to get more than any of them.
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Like a couple who had twins because they had so little faith in their first child...Deadheadz wrote:The Nats brass is so confident in Harper and Werth they signed Nate McLouth.
Which of the three gets the most 2014 at-bats? Span leading off is a good bet to get more than any of them.
McLouth has nothing to do with 'confidence'.
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It has to do with 'insurance' which they didn't have enough of in 2013.DOUGHBOYS wrote: McLouth has nothing to do with 'confidence'.
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Jonathon Herrera is signed by the Red Sox.
Am I supposed to think that is insurance for Pedroia?
I thought of him as a utility infielder, like I think of McLouth as a 4th outfielder.
Because McLouth comes at a higher price, we're supposed to read more into it?
Am I supposed to think that is insurance for Pedroia?
I thought of him as a utility infielder, like I think of McLouth as a 4th outfielder.
Because McLouth comes at a higher price, we're supposed to read more into it?
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Much more likely Herrera is insurance for Bogaerts who may well move from SS to 3B if Middlebrooks et al crap (or continue to crap) the bed there.DOUGHBOYS wrote:Jonathon Herrera is signed by the Red Sox.
Am I supposed to think that is insurance for Pedroia?
I thought of him as a utility infielder, like I think of McLouth as a 4th outfielder.
Because McLouth comes at a higher price, we're supposed to read more into it?
McLouth is a much better value as a 4th OF than Harper is a starter drafted early first round. Give me Hanley+McLouth over Harper+Herrera any day.
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OR....if the Harper owner had as large of a concern as you, he would simply go Harper/McLouthDeadheadz wrote:Much more likely Herrera is insurance for Bogaerts who may well move from SS to 3B if Middlebrooks et al crap (or continue to crap) the bed there.DOUGHBOYS wrote:Jonathon Herrera is signed by the Red Sox.
Am I supposed to think that is insurance for Pedroia?
I thought of him as a utility infielder, like I think of McLouth as a 4th outfielder.
Because McLouth comes at a higher price, we're supposed to read more into it?
McLouth is a much better value as a 4th OF than Harper is a starter drafted early first round. Give me Hanley+McLouth over Harper+Herrera any day.
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Now yer thinking like Mike Rizzo!
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Not really.Deadheadz wrote:Now yer thinking like Mike Rizzo!
I'm trying to think like you, but not succeeding. Nor do I want to....
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