NFBC Ultimate Is Being Proposed

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Tue Jan 25, 2005 4:40 am

Chris Fleming has changed from the Auction League to the Ultimate Draft League, giving us 15 guaranteed owners for the draft. Here is the updated list as of today:

Okay, here's the updated list of guys who DEFINITELY are in for the Ultimate Leagues. I still need to reach a few guys:

NFBC ULTIMATE AUCTION LEAGUE

1. Kevin Rogers (Science 69), Chicago or LV

2. Eddie Gillis (possibly draft), New York

3. Jim Ferrari, Las Vegas

4. Lewis Lipsey, Las Vegas

5. Wayne Barber, Las Vegas

6. Ken Magner (Sack), Las Vegas

7. Shawn Childs (C.C.'s Desperados), Las Vegas

8. Michael Fishman, Las Vegas

9. Kelly Uganski, Las Vegas

10. Glenn Schroeter (King of Queens), New York

11. Brad Feinberg, Las Vegas

12. Meat Loaf/Jeffrey Price, Las Vegas

13. James Bores (possibly draft), LV or NY

14. Yoni Bornstein, New York

15. Ari Benjamin, New York (would do draft)

16. Jay Bufis (Bags, tentative), NY

17. David Longood (tentative), LV

NFBC ULTIMATE DRAFT LEAGUE

1. Stanley Kaye, Las Vegas

2. Aaron Seefeldt, Chicago

3. Nevadaman, Las Vegas

4. George Kleemann, Chicago

5. Jason Duponte, Las Vegas

6. Eric Peden, Las Vegas

7. Dave Cushard, Las Vegas

8. Brett Washburn, Las Vegas

9. Terry Haney, Las Vegas (auction possible)

10. Will Robertson, New York

11. Howard Markowitz, Las Vegas (would do auction)

12. Rick Kanfer/Donn Johnson, Las Vegas

13. Rick Thomas, Las Vegas

14. TickyBurden, Las Vegas

15. Christopher Fleming (Lajolla), New York

16. David DiDonato, Las Vegas

17. Ken Norred, Las Vegas

18. Joe Passaro, New York

[ February 07, 2005, 01:44 PM: Message edited by: Greg Ambrosius ]

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:25 am

Joe Passaro wants to throw his name into the hat for the NFBC Ultimate Draft League on Sunday, March 20th. We already have 16 firm commitments, so we'll keep taking names and see if we can get enough interest for a second league. We'll figure this out soon enough, but I like the fact that we have more participants who want to compete. Keep 'em coming as it's only Feb. 2nd.

Kevin D · Post by **Kevin D** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 2:15 pm

Ultimate Auction Leagues have 15 teams each. What's the roster structure going to be. I'm thinking it will be the same as other NFBC leagues but 9(23 Total) or 10(24) Pitchers?

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 2:35 pm

They will be same as NFBC: 14 offensive players and 9 pitchers. 30 players, seven-man reserves for Ultimate Draft League and Ultimate Auction League.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 3:25 am

Greg, I understand that you want to keep things consistent (rosters, free agents, etc.) between the NFBC and the Ultimate Leagues. However, if all of the participants of the Ultimate League are in favor of changing the prize structure to something like 50,000/10,000/2,500, would you be okay with that?

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 4:08 am

If every owner in any league agreed to the same proposal it would be a minor miracle. Right now people are signing up with the proposed prize structure in mind and it will remain that way, but if you show me 15 votes for any proposal I'll gladly change it.

Don't change to $50K just to get Gekko in. He's not joining this one.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 4:26 am

Yoni Bornstein of Thornhill, Ontario competed in the NFBC last year, but this year he is more interested in the NFBC Ultimate Auction League. Yoni has just signed up for the Ultimate Auction League and is guaranteed a spot there, likely bidding from New York. We now have 14 guaranteed spots for that auction league and will continue taking tentative signups for both Ultimate Leagues to see how many leagues we'll form. So far so good.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 5:00 am

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

Don't change to $50K just to get Gekko in.i don't think KOQ wants to change this because of me. i think he simply likes the bigger payday for 1st.

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

He's not joining this one. if the owners changed it to 50K for 1st, it would make it more appealing to me. in any event, i'd have to talk with my people before deciding.

altenstadt · Post by **altenstadt** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 6:49 am

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

He's not joining this one. if the owners changed it to 50K for 1st, it would make it more appealing to me. in any event, i'd have to talk with my people before deciding. [/QB][/quote]

Talk with my people? You mean you need to ask Mommy and Daddy for the money?

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 7:45 am

Ari Benjamin and Leonard Ringle had great success in the NFBC last year and they plan on returning for the main event with separate teams in 2005. But they also want to team up in the NFBC Ultimate League and will take a spot in either the Auction League or the Draft League. We now have 35 participants on that list and we'll keep taking names with the goal of creating a third Ultimate League on Sunday, March 20th. Thanks guys and we'll stay in touch.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 8:19 am

I would love for Gekko to participate in the Ultimate league. However, my desire to make it 50/10/2.5 has nothing to do with getting Gekko to play. I don't even think he was the one who first proposed a higher 1st prize (lajolla, was it?).

Please note that the revised split does not impact Krause in any way--only the 3 teams who finish in 1st, 2nd and 3rd places. It's a way to make this contest even MORE interesting. Also, let's face it: with taxes a major consideration, that extra $10,000 would really come in handy.

How about it guys? Any of the 35 or so participants opposed to the chance of winning more money? If there are opposing views, I will immediately drop my case. Greg is correct in that everyone who signed up did so with the expectation of a 40/15/7.5 split of prizes, so there's no use in creating a mess for our friends in Iola.

Let's hear your views.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 8:55 am

I checked. Gekko proposed a 45K first prize on 1/12/05. About 15 minutes later, lajolla had a 50K first prize suggestion.

What say ye?

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 9:27 am

Originally posted by altenstadt:

Talk with my people? You mean you need to ask Mommy and Daddy for the money? i meant my milkman and the water delivery guy at work. they make all the decisions.

Originally posted by altenstadt:

Gekko is just toying with you, ignore him and he will go away! can't follow your own advice? i understand...people want to be near success. thanks.

[ February 03, 2005, 03:27 PM: Message edited by: Gordon Gekko ]

seefer · Post by **seefer** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 11:34 am

I'm for the original prize structure as proposed by Greg & Krause.

I am confirmed in the Ultimate Draft.

eddiejag · Post by **eddiejag** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 12:57 pm

I to like the way krause has it . Im not greedy it would be nice to make a little money if i came in 3rd. King what is your layout , do you have a second , and no 3rd. BAD ANGELS

altenstadt · Post by **altenstadt** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 1:03 pm

Nice catch Gordie, I didn't think you were that good. Most of the folks on this board say that you aren't the sharpest knife in the drawer. My reason for keeping this going is that you are so much fun to pick on and besides, we all want to know if your football winnings have paid for that surgery to get you some new gonads so that you have the gonads to sign up to play NFBC this year and tell everyone who your team is. But alas, my money is with the majority here, GEKKO is to chicken #$%& to do that.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 1:24 pm

Originally posted by altenstadt:

My reason for keeping this going is that you are so much fun to pick on and besides, we all want to know if your football winnings have paid for that surgery to get you some new gonads so that you have the gonads to sign up to play NFBC this year and tell everyone who your team is. But alas, my money is with the majority here, GEKKO is to chicken #$%& to do that. i like to be secret. it keeps you (and others) posting more and more. thanks for the question.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 1:25 pm

Eddie and seefer, point taken.

40 grand here we come!

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 7:49 am

Ken Norred of Ashland, Alabama is definitely in for the $5,000 Ultimate Draft League as we now have at least 18 interested parties for the draft and possibly 17 for the Auction. Let's just keep taking names and see if there's enough for possibly three Ultimate Leagues without leaving anyone out. Contact me if you're still interested.