NFBC Slow Draft Results: First Six Rounds

GOD Loves You · Post by **GOD Loves You** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:53 am

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

Sabathia, Halladay, Lee, Manny, Ibanez, and Lee?

Team name: AARP? Before he selected Ibanez, I told the owner prior to him to hurry up so the above owner could select Alfonso Soriano.

He also has Derrek Lee. Greg can you send a new magazine to him?

slopshot · Post by **slopshot** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:21 pm

I think Matt Holiday at pick 32 is great value.

TOXIC ASSETS · Post by **TOXIC ASSETS** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:26 pm

FreddieZee, thanks for the compliment.

I'm the owner who picked all the old guys. I've now also got Vladamir Guerrero on my team.

This is the same strategy I used last year. Two stud pitchers, then some good reliable hitters. My top 7 picks from last year were: J Santana, Sabathia, Bay, Mauer, Delgado, Dye, Damon. Only Delgado was a bust.

People laughed at my draft last year too but I tied for first place.

freddiezee · Post by **freddiezee** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:37 pm

Toxic - That's pretty impressive! Was that team drafted in a main event league last year or in a satellite league? Also, weren't Santana and Dye at least a bit of a bust last year?

TOXIC ASSETS · Post by **TOXIC ASSETS** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:44 pm

FZ - It was a slow draft. I haven't done the big money league yet...

Last season, Santana gave me good numbers before he got hurt for the last month or so. Dye gave me power although his BA wasn't good.

freddiezee · Post by **freddiezee** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:58 am

Toxic - Check you PM.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:21 am

I can't believe I haven't updated these results in the last two weeks. Let's put a few Slow Draft results out there for all to see. Here's the first one:

First Round:

1. Albert Pujols

2. Hanley Ramirez

3. Alex Rodriguez

4. Ryan Braun

5. Chase Utley

6. Matt Kemp

7. Joe Mauer

8. Troy Tulowitzki

9. Prince Fielder

10. Mark Teixeira

11. Ryan Howard

12. Ian Kinsler

13. Evan Longoria

14. Miguel Cabrera

15. Tim Lincecum

Second Round:

16. Carl Crawford

17. David Wright

18. Zack Greinke

19. Matt Holliday

20. Roy Halladay

21. Grady Sizemore

22. Jacoby Ellsbury

23. Justin Upton

24. Victor Martinez

25. Jimmy Rollins

26. Jose Reyes

27. Pablo Sandoval

28. Kevin Youkilis

29. Mark Reynolds

30. Brandon Phillips

Third Round:

31. Joey Votto

32. Adrian Gonzalez

33. CC Sabathia

34. Brian McCann

35. Justin Morneau

36. Ryan Zimmerman

37. Dustin Pedroia

38. Brian Roberts

39. Jayson Werth

40. Justin Verlander

41. Robinson Cano

42. Jason Bay

43. Curtis Granderson

44. Ichiro Suzuki

45. Felix Hernandez

Fourth Round:

46. Aaron Hill

47. Nick Markakis

48. B.J. Upton

49. Derek Jeter

50. Adam Lind

51. Ben Zobrist

52. Nelson Cruz

53. Andrew McCutchen

54. Michael Bourn

55. Dan Haren

56. Adam Wainwright

57. Jon Lester

58. Johan Santana

59. Kendry Morales

60. Aramis Ramirez

Fifth Round:

61. Bobby Abreu

62. Jonathan Papelbon

63. Shin-Soo Choo

64. Josh Beckett

65. Josh Hamilton

66. Andre Ethier

67. Jonathan Broxton

68. Tommy Hanson

69. Cliff Lee

70. Chone Figgins

71. Josh Johnson

72. Lance Berkman

73. Matt Cain

74. Adam Dunn

75. Joe Nathan

Sixth Round:

76. Carlos Lee

77. Carlos Beltran

78. Alexei Ramirez

79. Manny Ramirez

80. Michael Young

81. Chris Carpenter

82. Gordon Beckham

83. Matt Wieters

84. Javier Vazquez

85. Derrek Lee

86. Ubaldo Jimenez

87. Shane Victorino

88. Billy Butler

89. Adam Jones

90. Yovani Gallardo

Thoughts?

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:22 am

Wow, has anyone shot up the off-season Cheat Sheets faster than Andrew McCutchen? Unreal. Fourth round here. Let's see where he went in the other leagues. Another to follow soon.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:31 am

Here's another one:

First Round:

1. Albert Pujols

2. Hanley Ramirez

3. Alex Rodriguez

4. Matt Kemp

5. Ryan Braun

6. Chase Utley

7. Mark Teixeira

8. Prince Fielder

9. Carl Crawford

10. Miguel Cabrera

11. Evan Longoria

12. Ryan Howard

13. Ian Kinsler

14. Joe Mauer

15. Jacoby Ellsbury

Second Round:

16. David Wright

17. Jimmy Rollins

18. Troy Tulowitzki

19. Matt Holliday

20. Tim Lincecum

21. Jose Reyes

22. Joey Votto

23. Roy Halladay

24. Mark Reynolds

25. Victor Martinez

26. Justin Upton

27. Grady Sizemore

28. Dustin Pedroia

29. Kevin Youkilis

30. Zack Greinke

Third Round:

31. Felix Hernandez

32. Kendry Morales

33. Pablo Sandoval

34. Brandon Phillips

35. Ryan Zimmerman

36. Adrian Gonzalez

37. Ichiro Suzuki

38. Jason Bay

39. Jayson Werth

40. Brian McCann

41. Adam Lind

42. Brian Roberts

43. Justin Morneau

44. Nick Markakis

45. Derek Jeter

Fourth Round:

46. Robinson Cano

47. Aramis Ramirez

48. B.J. Upton

49. Curtis Granderson

50. Aaron Hill

51. Justin Verlander

52. Lance Berkman

53. CC Sabathia

54. Jon Lester

55. Dan Haren

56. Adam Dunn

57. Ben Zobrist

58. Bobby Abreu

59. Andrew McCutchen

60. Nelson Cruz

Fifth Round:

61. Shin-Soo Choo

62. Chris Carpenter

63. Carlos Pena

64. Derrek Lee

65. Adam Wainwright

66. Carlos Lee

67. Andre Ethier

68. Chone Figgins

69. Josh Beckett

70. Josh Hamilton

71. Michael Bourn

72. Dan Uggla

73. Tommy Hanson

74. Jonathan Broxton

75. Manny Ramirez

Sixth Round:

76. Jonathan Papelbon

77. Joe Nathan

78. Josh Johnson

79. Mariano Rivera

80. Cliff Lee

81. Hunter Pence

82. Jose Lopez

83. Jason Bartlett

84. Matt Wieters

85. Johan Santana

86. Billy Butler

87. Michael Young

88. Torii Hunter

89. Joakim Soria

90. Gordon Beckham

Thoughts?

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:49 am

One more Slow Draft result for tonight:

First Round:

1. Albert Pujols

2. Hanley Ramirez

3. Alex Rodriguez

4. Chase Utley

5. Ryan Braun

6. Matt Kemp

7. Joe Mauer

8. Prince Fielder

9. Mark Teixeira

10. Tim Lincecum

11. David Wright

12. Miguel Cabrera

13. Jacoby Ellsbury

14. Evan Longoria

15. Ryan Howard

Second Round:

16. Carl Crawford

17. Troy Tulowitzki

18. Victor Martinez

19. Jose Reyes

20. Matt Holliday

21. Ian Kinsler

22. Jimmy Rollins

23. Mark Reynolds

24. Brandon Phillips

25. Joey Votto

26. Justin Upton

27. Ryan Zimmerman

28. Dustin Pedroia

29. Roy Halladay

30. Brian Roberts

Third Round:

31. Kevin Youkilis

32. Robinson Cano

33. Grady Sizemore

34. Zack Greinke

35. Derek Jeter

36. Pablo Sandoval

37. Felix Hernandez

38. Aaron Hill

39. Jayson Werth

40. Brian McCann

41. Adrian Gonzalez

42. Curtis Granderson

43. Justin Verlander

44. B.J. Upton

45. Jason Bay

Fourth Round:

46. Michael Bourn

47. Adam Lind

48. Ben Zobrist

49. Jonathan Broxton

50. Nelson Cruz

51. Aramis Ramirez

52. Ichiro Suzuki

53. Justin Morneau

54. CC Sabathia

55. Jon Lester

56. Dan Haren

57. Kendry Morales

58. Adam Wainwright

59. Cliff Lee

60. Johan Santana

Fifth Round:

61. Andrew McCutchen

62. Nick Markakis

63. Josh Hamilton

64. Jason Bartlett

65. Derrek Lee

66. Bobby Abreu

67. Carlos Lee

68. Adam Dunn

69. Gordon Beckham

70. Shane Victorino

71. Joe Nathan

72. Andre Ethier

73. Javier Vazquez

74. Josh Johnson

75. Billy Butler

Sixth Round:

76. Shin-Soo Choo

77. Chone Figgins

78. Adam Jones

79. Tommy Hanson

80. Alexei Ramirez

81. Lance Berkman

82. Hunter Pence

83. Jonathan Papelbon

84. Manny Ramirez

85. Josh Beckett

86. Chris Carpenter

87. Mariano Rivera

88. Yovani Gallardo

89. Matt Wieters

90. Ubaldo Jimenez

Thoughts?

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:14 pm

52, 72, 81

It seems like Lance Berkman might have one of the biggest variances among players with an ADP of 90 or less.

Ryan C · Post by **Ryan C** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:13 pm

McCutcheon moving on uppppp!

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:04 am

Okay, let's keep whetting your appetite for ADPS and give you another Slow Draft offering that is currently going on. Here are the first six rounds from this one:

First Round:

1. Albert Pujols

2. Hanley Ramirez

3. Ryan Braun

4. Chase Utley

5. Alex Rodriguez

6. Matt Kemp

7. Mark Teixeira

8. Prince Fielder

9. Ryan Howard

10. Evan Longoria

11. Miguel Cabrera

12. Troy Tulowitzki

13. Ian Kinsler

14. Carl Crawford

15. Joe Mauer

Second Round:

16. Tim Lincecum

17. David Wright

18. Jimmy Rollins

19. Justin Upton

20. Kevin Youkilis

21. Jacoby Ellsbury

22. Mark Reynolds

23. Brandon Phillips

24. Jose Reyes

25. Dustin Pedroia

26. Grady Sizemore

27. Matt Holliday

28. Victor Martinez

29. CC Sabathia

30. Pablo Sandoval

Third Round:

31. Roy Halladay

32. Felix Hernandez

33. Brian Roberts

34. Adrian Gonzalez

35. Joey Votto

36. Ryan Zimmerman

37. Robinson Cano

38. Adam Lind

39. Zack Greinke

40. Jayson Werth

41. Ichiro Suzuki

42. Brian McCann

43. Dan Haren

44. B.J. Upton

45. Lance Berkman

Fourth Round:

46. Derrek Lee

47. Alexei Ramirez

48. Adam Wainwright

49. Aaron Hill

50. Aramis Ramirez

51. Justin Verlander

52. Curtis Granderson

53. Derek Jeter

54. Jason Bay

55. Justin Morneau

56. Kendry Morales

57. Jon Lester

58. Ben Zobrist

59. Adam Dunn

60. Joe Nathan

Fifth Round:

61. Tommy Hanson

62. Jonathan Broxton

63. Nick Markakis

64. Jonathan Papelbon

65. Josh Beckett

66. Nelson Cruz

67. Chone Figgins

68. Mariano Rivera

69. Billy Butler

70. Asdrubal Cabrera

71. Andre Ethier

72. Carlos Pena

73. Hunter Pence

74. Johan Santana

75. Bobby Abreu

Sixth Round:

76. Josh Hamilton

77. Cliff Lee

78. Andrew McCutchen

79. Michael Bourn

80. Carlos Lee

81. Josh Johnson

82. Matt Cain

83. Torii Hunter

84. Ricky Nolasco

85. Cole Hamels

86. Matt Wieters

87. Gordon Beckham

88. Clayton Kershaw

89. Shin-Soo Choo

90. Jose Lopez

Thoughts?

Hells Satans · Post by **Hells Satans** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:28 am

I know Tommy Hanson is Baseball Jesus and all, but the fact that he's being taken 13 spots ahead of Johan Santana is insane.

This was a strange first 6 rounds of a draft

Good Value

27. Matt Holliday

66. Nelson Cruz

71. Andre Ethier

74. Johan Santana

89. Shin-Soo Choo

Dont Get It At That Spot

45. Lance Berkman

46. Derrek Lee

47. Alexei Ramirez

70. Asdrubal Cabrera

JohnP · Post by **JohnP** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:40 am

Uh oh - Sandoval ahead of Zimmerman again. Potter might need a new data source.

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:02 am

Originally posted by Hells Satans:

I know Tommy Hanson is Baseball Jesus and all, but the fact that he's being taken 13 spots ahead of Johan Santana is insane.

This was a strange first 6 rounds of a draft

Good Value

27. Matt Holliday

66. Nelson Cruz

71. Andre Ethier

74. Johan Santana

89. Shin-Soo Choo

Dont Get It At That Spot

45. Lance Berkman

46. Derrek Lee

47. Alexei Ramirez

70. Asdrubal Cabrera You know what is funny I agree with you about everything you say except the one you feel strongest about Hanson versus Johan. You must believe Johan will be a lot healthier than I do. Other than that agree 100%.

Hells Satans · Post by **Hells Satans** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:58 am

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

quote:Originally posted by Hells Satans:

I know Tommy Hanson is Baseball Jesus and all, but the fact that he's being taken 13 spots ahead of Johan Santana is insane.

This was a strange first 6 rounds of a draft

Good Value

27. Matt Holliday

66. Nelson Cruz

71. Andre Ethier

74. Johan Santana

89. Shin-Soo Choo

Dont Get It At That Spot

45. Lance Berkman

46. Derrek Lee

47. Alexei Ramirez

70. Asdrubal Cabrera You know what is funny I agree with you about everything you say except the one you feel strongest about Hanson versus Johan. You must believe Johan will be a lot healthier than I do. Other than that agree 100%. [/QUOTE]It's some of that and some of a reactionary response to Hanson. Hanson has great stuff and a solid future, but he his delivery is very violent, he pitched 50 innings more last year than in 2008, and is 23 years old. I'd say the odds of throwing 180+ innings are less than 50/50. Santana may have around the same odds.

You could make the same argument as to Josh Johnson with Hanson. Johnson is going about 7 spots behind Hanson on average in the slow drafts and I have no idea why

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:02 am

If all three pitched 180 innings next year, how would you rank them?

rkulaski · Post by **rkulaski** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:46 am

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

quote:Originally posted by Hells Satans:

I know Tommy Hanson is Baseball Jesus and all, but the fact that he's being taken 13 spots ahead of Johan Santana is insane.

This was a strange first 6 rounds of a draft

Good Value

27. Matt Holliday

66. Nelson Cruz

71. Andre Ethier

74. Johan Santana

89. Shin-Soo Choo

Dont Get It At That Spot

45. Lance Berkman

46. Derrek Lee

47. Alexei Ramirez

70. Asdrubal Cabrera You know what is funny I agree with you about everything you say except the one you feel strongest about Hanson versus Johan. You must believe Johan will be a lot healthier than I do. Other than that agree 100%. [/QUOTE]Why wouldn't you believe Johan will be healthy this year. Was his surgery a failure?

Hells Satans · Post by **Hells Satans** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:49 am

Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

If all three pitched 180 innings next year, how would you rank them? Johan

Johnson

Hanson

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:34 am

Originally posted by Hells Satans:

quote:Originally posted by DOUGHBOYS:

If all three pitched 180 innings next year, how would you rank them? Johan

Johnson

Hanson [/QUOTE]Why?

Not picking on you. Just wondering if you expect Santana to pitch as well as before the injury or expect Johnson and Hanson to regress.

jamesmaples · Post by **jamesmaples** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:44 am

Can anyone tell me why Youkilis is considered better than Derek Lee?

The Franchise · Post by **The Franchise** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:50 am

Originally posted by jamesmaples:

Can anyone tell me why Youkilis is considered better than Derek Lee? Youth, more potential and 1b/3b eligibility would be my guess.

headhunters · Post by **headhunters** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:52 am

santana= surgery a failure? I tell my children- once a liar always a liar. there is more risk with any met from now on. if they have been near a knife they have risk- no matter what the mets, or the player says.

jamesmaples · Post by **jamesmaples** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:20 am

Originally posted by The Franchise:

quote:Originally posted by jamesmaples:

Can anyone tell me why Youkilis is considered better than Derek Lee? Youth, more potential and 1b/3b eligibility would be my guess. [/QUOTE]It looks to me that Lee's wrist is finally healthy. Youk has never hit 30 Hrs and he is no spring chicken.