ADP - SEVENTH Round

jamesmaples · Post by **jamesmaples** » Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:48 pm

I don't like any philly pitching other than halladay. I am not sure what to do with the poop comment.

Less than Dave · Post by **Less than Dave** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:25 am

Originally posted by Gekko:

I will beat EVERY main event team that selects Hamels as their #1 SP. THAT'S A FACT You're 0-2 vs me so far... If I get the chance I'll def take Hamels and make it 3

Less than Dave · Post by **Less than Dave** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:32 am

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Less than Dave:

oh, and if you like SHandler, his xERA was 3.67... none of his numbers other than 1st half hit% were off... he looks like the same pitcher we had been seeing the last 3 years, but he went through an unlucky period which probably caused him to get frustrated.. he was 25 years old after all... an offseason of rest should do wonders i'm assuming you haven't looked at his playoff stats.

hamels is a bum that will BURN each and every one of his 7th round owners this year. don't let it be you

[/QUOTE]Cmon man, do you honestly expect anyone to believe this garbage?? AROD sucks in the playoffs too, drop him to the 5th round!! Manny is a god in the playoffs, draft him #1 overall!! Oh wait, PLAYOFF STATS DON'T COUNT! You're right, his last 3 starts were bad (I thought his last start was a relief appearance but I guess they pulled him after giving up 3 runs in 3 innings) but a few bad starts at the end of the season isn't going to scare off any knowledgeable owner dude...

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:08 am

Originally posted by Less than Dave:

quote:Originally posted by Gekko:

I will beat EVERY main event team that selects Hamels as their #1 SP. THAT'S A FACT You're 0-2 vs me so far... If I get the chance I'll def take Hamels and make it 3 [/QUOTE]take hamels and it will be 1-2

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:09 am

Originally posted by Less than Dave:

quote:Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Less than Dave:

oh, and if you like SHandler, his xERA was 3.67... none of his numbers other than 1st half hit% were off... he looks like the same pitcher we had been seeing the last 3 years, but he went through an unlucky period which probably caused him to get frustrated.. he was 25 years old after all... an offseason of rest should do wonders i'm assuming you haven't looked at his playoff stats.

hamels is a bum that will BURN each and every one of his 7th round owners this year. don't let it be you

[/QUOTE]Cmon man, do you honestly expect anyone to believe this garbage?? AROD sucks in the playoffs too, drop him to the 5th round!! Manny is a god in the playoffs, draft him #1 overall!! Oh wait, PLAYOFF STATS DON'T COUNT! You're right, his last 3 starts were bad (I thought his last start was a relief appearance but I guess they pulled him after giving up 3 runs in 3 innings) but a few bad starts at the end of the season isn't going to scare off any knowledgeable owner dude... [/QUOTE]hamels won't be on one of my teams this year.

Less than Dave · Post by **Less than Dave** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:12 am

well, that's good news for me then!

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:00 am

dave - no worries. you are a good owner. now, once you get a couple top 10 overall finishes under your belt, then we'll talk

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:18 am

dave - no worries. you are a good owner. now, once you get a couple top 10 overall finishes under your belt, then we'll talk

Potter · Post by **Potter** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:39 am

Massivedouchesezwhat?

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:51 am

I think based upon past experience after actual drafts it is safe to say you will see Hamels on all of Mark's teams and Hamels on none of Dave's.

Dave if you want to argue that one I will put out the Matt Kemp post before I believe the 2008 draft

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:17 am

Originally posted by Potter:

Massivedouchesezwhat? that coulda read Pottersezwhat and you woulda got the same point across

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:21 am

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

I think based upon past experience after actual drafts it is safe to say you will see Hamels on all of Mark's teams and Hamels on none of Dave's.

does that mean you moved Hamels up your list?

Potter · Post by **Potter** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:26 am

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Potter:

Massivedouchesezwhat? that coulda read Pottersezwhat and you woulda got the same point across [/QUOTE]Wow. "I know you are but what am I"? Really? Yawn.

[ February 11, 2010, 10:27 AM: Message edited by: Potter ]

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 5:52 am

Originally posted by Potter:

quote:Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Potter:

Massivedouchesezwhat? that coulda read Pottersezwhat and you woulda got the same point across [/QUOTE]Wow. "I know you are but what am I"? Really? Yawn. [/QUOTE]ruland - now can you just go away? or at the least stop following me around these boards. PLEASE. it's noticeable to everyone including Greg. i know it's hard, but don't let jealousy get the best of you.

Potter · Post by **Potter** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 5:57 am

Back to back comebacks circa 4th grade. Impressive.

Finkel · Post by **Finkel** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:18 am

Originally posted by Gekko:

dave - no worries. you are a good owner. now, once you get a couple top 10 overall finishes under your belt, then we'll talk The Douche Pickle is loose!!!

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:26 am

Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

I think based upon past experience after actual drafts it is safe to say you will see Hamels on all of Mark's teams and Hamels on none of Dave's.

does that mean you moved Hamels up your list?

[/QUOTE]The only person you would get me to move up is if you gave me an honest assessment of 6-8 type back end starters. You are excellent at that IMO. You blow so much hot air about greatness that I think that gets lost sometimes. The Gekko haters should check out the back end of his 2008 pitching staff.

I know you have strong legit feelings on Hamels as do I. I just would never waste my efforts or care to find out what they are.

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:32 am

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

The only person you would get me to move up is if you gave me an honest assessment of 6-8 type back end starters. You are excellent at that IMO. You blow so much hot air about greatness that I think that gets lost sometimes. The Gekko haters should check out the back end of his 2008 pitching staff. thanks Chest. last year would have been the same, but the bad luck i experienced was just to much to overcome. gaudin, holland, zimmerman, blanton, smoltz, paulino all had ERA's (and likely whips) higher (in some cases a lot) than the "historic norms" of other players putting up comparable K9 and BB9.

hopefully i can get a little luckier in 2010.

[ February 11, 2010, 12:34 PM: Message edited by: Gekko ]

Less than Dave · Post by **Less than Dave** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:06 am

Originally posted by Gekko:

dave - no worries. you are a good owner. now, once you get a couple top 10 overall finishes under your belt, then we'll talk Mark, that's fine... I'm all for the fact that I still need to prove myself.. I learn new things every year and know I need to improve my overall game. I listen to what more experienced and great veteran owners have to say and I take note. I can and WILL do better. I promise you that.

Less than Dave · Post by **Less than Dave** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:08 am

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell:

I think based upon past experience after actual drafts it is safe to say you will see Hamels on all of Mark's teams and Hamels on none of Dave's.

Dave if you want to argue that one I will put out the Matt Kemp post before I believe the 2008 draft hahahaha... I wanted Matt Kemp SO BAD that year it was ridiculous... I knew he was going to be a 1st round talent and wanted in on the ground floor... was hoping to cast some doubt on him

Snord35 · Post by **Snord35** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:25 am

Originally posted by Gekko:

I will beat EVERY main event team that selects Hamels as their #1 SP. THAT'S A FACT I like your chances Gekko! That means you vs 30 other teams that draft Hamels as their #1. In the end it will be you vs about 15 teams as I'm sure half won't have him as their #1.

Less than Dave · Post by **Less than Dave** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:50 am

Yeah, I mean, I know most of you all buy into this "draft only hitting in first 7 rounds" philosophy, but I sure as hell don't! Half the categories are PITCHING categories too.. yes, I know all the pitfalls of pitching, more luck and variance involved, blah blah blah... I am still taking the best value on the board regardless... if that means 3 pitchers in first 7 rounds then so-be-it.. in fact I would be shocked if I didn't have 3 through first 8 rounds... who says Hamels has to be my ONLY ace??

Less than Dave · Post by **Less than Dave** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:57 am

I'm all for hearing arguments against pitching early.. injuries? too much variance? easier to pick up on waiver wire? I mean, my experience has taught me that you should identify guys who are riskier than others and pay less for them, but everyone, hitters AND pitchers, get injured. Who could have been less likely to get injured than Grady Sizemore last year? Yet, he did! Yes, Brandon Webb did too, but it's not like it happens ALL the time or anything... too much variance? Do you have any doubt that Lincecum, Halladay, Sabathia, Felix, Greinke, Santana, Verlander, Haren, Lester, Wainwright, etc wont be top flight starters? Why shouldn't you pay for that?

DOUGHBOYS · Post by **DOUGHBOYS** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:03 am

Originally posted by Less than Dave:

Who could have been less likely to get injured than Grady Sizemore last year? Yet, he did!Prince Fielder, Ryan Howard...Big guys under 30. Look it up

Pitchers arms and speedsters legs are close to being in the same category for me. The major differince is that the speedster sees the field again quicker and basically runs the same. Pitchers are generally out longer and sometimes do not have the same 'stuff' as before they were hurt.

sportsbettingman · Post by **sportsbettingman** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:31 pm

Originally posted by Potter:

quote:Originally posted by Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by Potter:

Massivedouchesezwhat? that coulda read Pottersezwhat and you woulda got the same point across [/QUOTE]Wow. "I know you are but what am I"? Really? Yawn. [/QUOTE]Now listen here, Harry!...(

THAT'S how Mark should have came back at him)