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Post by Gekko » Sun May 09, 2010 1:56 pm

I know many people picked him up tonight (including me). He was available in all 5 of my leagues. He wasn't drafted. He was never picked up. He was demoted to the minors on Friday.



Was he a legal pickup?

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Post by Gekko » Sun May 09, 2010 2:00 pm

I did ask Tom b4 the deadline, and he said he was legal. But for some reason I thought I remembered that players fitting his situation got removed from the FAAB pool. My mind could be playing tricks on me. Can anyone help?

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Post by Da bears » Sun May 09, 2010 2:01 pm

I hope so I picked him up also. :cool:



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Post by Gekko » Sun May 09, 2010 2:02 pm

King of Queens, you are the best at researching. Can you offer assistance?

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Post by Glenneration X » Sun May 09, 2010 2:11 pm

Trying to figure out why you would think he isn't available to be picked up? :rolleyes:



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Post by Gekko » Sun May 09, 2010 2:13 pm

Originally posted by Glenneration X:

Trying to figure out why you would think he isn't available to be picked up? :rolleyes:



Glenn i wish i had time to research this b4 the deadline...oh boy...



posted May 15, 2008 12:14 AM

Originally posted by RichV:

If a player is called up from the minors, never picked up by free agent bid in a league, and then sent back back to the minors, does he remain in that league's FA pool?



If the rules say he does stay in the free agent pol, where's Justin Masterson?

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Post by Gekko » Sun May 09, 2010 2:14 pm

posted May 15, 2008 06:50 AM



Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

No he doesn't. He remains out of your free agent pool until he is called back up again. I hope this helps.

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Post by King of Queens » Sun May 09, 2010 2:17 pm

Originally posted by Gekko:

King of Queens, you are the best at researching. Can you offer assistance? The rule is pretty simple. If the player was never owned by an NFBC team in your league, and he's in the minors as of 7am Sunday morning, he can't be picked up. There's no gray area here.



Here's the specific rule:



12. Free Agents

Any player who is not on a team roster within your league and is on a major league roster or once was on an NFBC team in your league is considered a free agent for that league. Even players on the MLB disabled list are eligible to be picked up during the FAAB bidding process. The player pool is deemed closed of new free agents each Sunday at 7 AM ET before the FAAB bidding deadline. Participants should note that MLB unsigned veteran free agents at the time of Draft Day are eligible to be picked up or bid on in the NFBC Classic.

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Post by Glenneration X » Sun May 09, 2010 2:21 pm

I just read the rule myself....



Between the clear wording of the rule & the written precedent by Greg that you posted, it's pretty cut & dry that he's not available to be picked up.



That said, I think it's a rule that should be revisited for next year.



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Post by Gekko » Sun May 09, 2010 2:25 pm

So what does this mean, all the Ely bids get removed and FAAB rerun in all those leagues? :(

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Post by Gekko » Sun May 09, 2010 2:28 pm

are there other minor leaguers who were picked up that meet this same criteria??

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Post by Da bears » Sun May 09, 2010 2:28 pm

Originally posted by Gekko:

So what does this mean, all the Ely bids get removed and FAAB rerun in all those leagues? :( Damn that would suck Mark. :( :( :(
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Post by King of Queens » Sun May 09, 2010 2:34 pm

Time for a change.



The rule needs to be rewritten next year that anyone can be bid on. Double A, Japanese, your grandmother, whatever.

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Post by Da bears » Sun May 09, 2010 2:36 pm

Originally posted by King of Queens:

Time for a change.



The rule needs to be rewritten next year that anyone can be bid on. Double A, Japanese, your grandmother, whatever. I'll take Betty White for a $1. :D
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Post by King of Queens » Sun May 09, 2010 2:40 pm

Originally posted by Da bears:

quote:Originally posted by King of Queens:

Time for a change.



The rule needs to be rewritten next year that anyone can be bid on. Double A, Japanese, your grandmother, whatever. I'll take Betty White for a $1. :D
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Post by Gekko » Sun May 09, 2010 2:40 pm

so now what? will the ely owners get him? i can't see how they could. if not, will bids be rerun?



i just can't believe the frustration level here. it's everywhere i turn. IT'S HARD ENOUGH TRYING TO BEAT THE GREAT BASEBALL MINDS IN THIS CONTEST, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO SPEND TIME TO BEAT THE FANBALL SYSTEM. :mad: :mad: :mad:

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Post by rmurph3 » Sun May 09, 2010 2:48 pm

My recollection of the rule was same as GG's, I was surprised to see Ely picked up in my league.



Emilio Bonifacio was another pickup in my league today that would seem to fall into the same category.
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Post by King of Queens » Sun May 09, 2010 2:49 pm







THE BOOK OF ELY

Some will kill to get him in FAAB

He will kill Fanball Programmers in frustration

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Post by Gekko » Sun May 09, 2010 2:50 pm

looks like fanball has SOME free agent scrubbing to do tomorrow. CAN SOMEONE AT FANBALL TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THE FREE AGENT POOL. IT FEELS LIKE WE ARE ON A SHIP OUT TO SEA WITHOUT A CAPTAIN! :mad:



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Post by King of Queens » Sun May 09, 2010 2:51 pm

Originally posted by rmurph3:

Emilio Bonifacio was another pickup in my league today that would seem to fall into the same category. If he was EVER owned in your league, Bonifacio is a legal pickup. Check the waiver history.

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Post by Rog » Sun May 09, 2010 3:18 pm

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doesn't because he pitched this year in the bigs that should make him eligble and if not then what category does jarrod salty fall into

i am new to all this but that is how i understood the ruling

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Post by King of Queens » Sun May 09, 2010 3:22 pm

Originally posted by rog:



doesn't because he pitched this year in the bigs that should make him eligble and if not then what category does jarrod salty fall into

i am new to all this but that is how i understood the ruling See my post on the previous page. If he was never owned by a team in your league, and he's in the minors as of 7am Sunday, he can't be picked up.



Salty was almost certainly previously-owned, and thus eligible for pickup.

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Post by Gekko » Sun May 09, 2010 11:06 pm

BUMP.



I (and others) won't have Internet access from 6am-4.30pm today so please email all participants about what is happening to Ely and any other pickups that appear to be illegal. Thank you.

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